Thursday, April 19, 2012

Chapter 3 of The Fifth Book of Peace: What is this chapter about? How do you feel about this topic? Support your caim by using a quote from the chapter. Cite it properly. (worth 10 points) Now, comment on a peer's posting. (worth 10 points) Use proper grammar and mechanics.

48 comments:

Antwon McCloud says to me Look Ma Ima Blogger:) said...

Water is the third and it talks about the symbolism of water and how it helps.

Keahi Delovio said...

This Chapter is tiltled Water and from what I've read so far it talks about a family who moved to Hawaii trying to escape the Vietnam war drafting. I think this chpter is trying to explain that we should strive for peace. " they do mean peace. the're a peace keeping army, defending the peace, going to pacify Vietnam." Chapter 3 page 118

Maggie Chen said...

Chapter 3 is a fictitious story of peace by the author Maxine Hong Kingston. It's about this family, cosisting of Wittman, Tana, and their son Mario, moving to Hawaii, avoiding, basically, Viet Nam War-- which was still going on at the time. And it's just about Wittman traveling the Big Island with his family, and seeing the impact of the war in Hawaii, and on its resisdents.
"Wittman saw where the convoy had come from- a man-made cleft in the mountain side. He would not have seen it but for this sign: KAPU KEEP OUT PROPERTY OF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT
So-the Government put a kapu on this part of the 'aina." -page 118
This is my quote, from the book, and this is how wrong it's been in Hawaii. Where Kapu is put on in Hawaii, agianst Hawaiians, by the Government! It's just ... wrong.

Keahi Delovio said...

This Chapter is tiltled Water and from what I've read so far it talks about a family who moved to Hawaii trying to escape the Vietnam war drafting. I think this chpter is trying to explain that we should strive for peace. " they do mean peace. the're a peace keeping army, defending the peace, going to pacify Vietnam." Chapter 3 page 118

Keahi Delovio said...

@ magi maybe state your thesis a little earlier? other than that your comment is good :)

Maggie Chen said...

@Keahi Devolio, what do you mean by "strive for peace"? Like are they just trying to be peaceful, and friendly to their native neighbors? Or is it just ... ? I don't understand. So, they're just being peaceful?

Aidan Marvick said...

Chapter 3 of The Fifth Book of Peace, Water, was the recreation of her fictional book, The Fourth Book of Peace. It is about a Chinese-American and his wife who were artists in California, Wittman and Tana. They fled to Hawaii to escape the Vietnam War draft. These two people set up a war rehabilitation center to help veterans who were traumatized through art. This was a very inspiring chapter and I enjoyed the peacefulness of the center that they set up. It was inspiring to visualize the peace they tried to create.
"Another reason for having the lani studio was to insist upon the world that does not steal. To live trusting and unparanoid. Our hearts and house open, and the world is good." (Chapter 3 Page 142)
This quote tells of the peaceful nature of their being and their attempts to create peace in a time of war.

Aidan Marvick said...

@ Maggie Chen - Good summary, but what about the place they created for returning GI's and deserters who still felt the impact of the war. There was a lot of peace in this chapter, not just escape from war. I like that quote; it is very strong. Nice job.

Rico Granger said...

The third chapter in the Fifth Book of Peace is titled Water. I think Water represents Hawaii and its isolation in the vastness of the Pacific Ocean. It is a fictional chapter and it is centered around Wittman Ah Sing and his family living in Hawaii during the Vietnam war.

Rico Granger said...

Rico Granger @ Unknown. You need to go more into depth about the actual content of the chapter and not just the name. You could improve your explanation on the symbolism of water.

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Cory Yamagata said...

Chapter 3 of The Fifth Book of Peace in entitled Water. Maxine's Fourth Book of Peace burns in devastating fire that teaches her destruction and the true meaning of peace. Water represents peace and purity even though the chapter is based upon fictional events of a family with members Wittman, Tana, and their son Mario. It evolves around their experiences during the Vietnam War while traveling to the Big Island of Hawaii and how the essence of "Aloha" has been destroyed. Even though much there distress from the Vietnam War Wittman and his Wife become involved and are ones to set up sanctuaries for the GI's. This chapter expresses both destruction and peace which are essential if you are to comprehend one another.

"You can't fix it and you can't make it go away. I don't know what you're going to do about it, but I know what I'm going to do about it. I'm just going to walk away from it. Maybe a small part of it will die if I'm not around feeding it anymore."(Chapter 3, 65) This quote depicts the thoughts that are racing through Wittman's mind when the peace is being overcome and destroyed. He feels peace can not be taken back so he must escape before destruction can swallow him as well which shows the relationship between destruction and peace within this chapter.

Cory Yamagata said...

@Keahi Delovio, I think you should expound more on the idea of "strive for peace". Add more information upon the events that take place in the chapter but also your abstract insight with depth about what it means. Try to explain your quote and why you used it to support your claim.

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Marissa Bryant-Manago said...

The third chapter of Maxine Hong Kingston's book, 'The Fifth Book of Peace' is Water. Unlike the previous two, this chapter is fictional and a re-carnation of her burned 'Fourth Book of Peace'. The main character of the third chapter is Wittman Ah Sing, a Chinese American who fled to Hawaii from Berkley as a draft register during the Vietnam War. Wittman and his wife, Tana, also helped to set up a sanctuary for G.I.'s. I found this chapter very interesting because you learn about what happened in Hawaii when your parents were younger. "A disproportionately huge section of the map of Oahu was pink, which according to the key meant that it belongs to the military. The U.S. government kapu the island. he island was an aircraft carrier, a launching pad, an armed satellite, and its purpose was to funnel our every destructive resource to Vietnam." (Chapter 3 page 119) This quote shows states what it was like to live in Hawaii during a time of war.

Marissa Bryant-Manago said...

@Cory Yamagata: You gave a good summary of the chapter a good thesis and a quote that supported your thesis very well.

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Anonymous said...

Chapter 3 of the Fifth Book of Peace titled "Water" is actually the story from the Fourth Book of Peace that burned up in the Oakland fire. The character named Wittman and his family are trying to avoid the Vietnam War drafting by moving to Hawaii in hopes of avoiding the war altogether. By moving to Hawaii, the family tries to enforce peace within themselves and everyone else.
To me, this topic is, no offense, usually a dull boring one. But in this book, Maxine Hong Kingston changes the preaches of peace into a somewhat thrilling story/autobiography.
"Those girls have become military recruiters!...'No thank you,' said Mario. 'I'm not interested in joining the military. Please don't call anymore.' Wittman and Tana hugged each other for joy." (Chapter 3, Page 237)
In this quote, Mario was being persuaded to join the military in the Vietnam War, the very thing the family was trying to avoid. This quote shows the true belief of peace within the family because it says how elated the family was when Mario turned the girl down in joining the military.

Anonymous said...

@Lani I liked how you gave a gist of the chapter, not too long, but not too short either, but straight to the point. I understood what was pretty much happening in the chapter through it. What I liked about it was the quote because it proves the family's strive for peace and their willingness to try and teach others and their children. I also liked it because I happened to look at that exact same quote. ;P Maybe you can describe some of the "devastation due to war". Other than that nice post.

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Anonymous said...

@Unknown Water is the third what? What does water symbolize? From your vague post, it seems as though you are talking about the liquid water because there is nothing that specifies what "water" is.

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Zac said...

This chapter is about Wittman, Tana and their son Mario. This chapter is called Water and is Kingston's recreated, fictional, Fourth Book of Peace. In this chapter the small family moves to Hawaii in search of peace and a new home. They left to get away from the violence that Berkeley was offering and to escape the draft. Most of this chapter is about peace and striving to obtain it. I really like the fact that Wittman came to Hawaii seeking preexisting peace instead of bringing an artificial sense of peace. The character Wittman in particular goes out searching for peace all over the island and this is one example of when he did find it. "A soldier flashed him the peace sign! Looked right at him and held up two fingers. And another soldier gave him the peace sign. Wittman flashed one back. Half a truckload of GIs saw him do that, and flashed him-Peace. Peace. Peace. Peace, brother... Truck after truck, not just one guy sneaking a peace sign but truckloads. A long convey wishing him peace." Chapter 3 page 117

Zac said...

@ Cory Yamagata
You did a great job. You told both the basic plot but also dove deeper into the symbolic realm including "water". Good job explaining the peace and destruction being dependent on each other. Also you picked a very good quote to support your topic.

alexis.transfiguracion said...

Recreated from Kingston's previously burned book, The Fourth Book of Peace, comes the third chapter of The Fifth Book of Peace. It is a fictional account entitled “Water” involving Wittman Ah Sing, a fifth generation Chinese-American, and his wife and son, Taña and Mario. The family flees from California to Hawaii to escape being drafted into the Viet Nam War. As they spend their time there, Wittman and Taña help to create a rehabilitation center for war veterans through what they do best – creating art. The feelings of peace established between the artists and veterans can be lead back to the title of this chapter “Water”. Just as how water is pure and sustaining to life, so is the purity of the peace felt between these people and it's stabilizing effect in helping them live. Though this chapter was probably the longest chapter I have ever read in my life, I felt that the topic it presented of finding peace through service was truly inspiring. An example of this is given through the words of Wittman when he says, “This is what you shall do: Love the earth and sun and the animals, despise riches, give alms to every one that asks, stand up for the stupid and crazy, devote your income and labor to others...have patience and indulgence toward the people...” (Chapter 3, Page 236)

alexis.transfiguracion said...

@ Rico Granger - You're missing a quote. It's a good idea to include this in order to support your interpretation for the symbolism behind "Water" or why you think Chapter 3 is about what you had already mentioned.

Cortney Heiss said...

Chapter Three of the Fifth Book of Peace is about Wittman Ah Sing who is a fifth generation nisei and his son and wife,Tana and Mario.They escape from being drafted in the Vietnam War.I believe that this Chapter was about finding peace through helping those around you.I think this is something to be inspired by. "A long convoy wishing him peace...They must mean:Keep it up.Have a good time. We won't begrudge you. Be free.You work for peace and freedom your way;we'll work for it this other way.Good for you." Page 117

Cortney Heiss said...

@Zac: I love your quote and your explanation is wonderful.You really know what you're talking about.Perhaps you could go into a little more detail on what the quote means? Keep it up Zac! :)

Edie Hall said...

Chapter three of the fifth book of peace tells a fictional story that was recently contained in the fourth book of peace before it was burned. In this fictional story the main character Wittman, his wife tana and his son mario all move to the big island of Hawaii in hope of escaping being drafted into the Vietnam war. I believe the topic of this chapter is to be able to spread peace wherever you go. "The peace marchers walked at an even pace moving in concert. Their demeanor and attitude created an atmosphere that made the cars slow down for them. A bubble of peace moved with them along the street."(pg.126). This quote explains how the peace marchers were on the streets marching to make a difference. By them selflessly spreading peace they are making the world a better place.

Edie Hall said...

@ cortney very good summary but I feel that you should explain your quote a little better.

The Student said...

Chapter three is about a family, who move to Hawaii attempting to flee the harsh realities of the Vietnam War."When...Governor Ray Gun ordering the National Guard and helicopters to tear-gas and shoot up People's Park and Berkeley Wittman Ah Sing and Tana made up their minds to leave America" Chapter 3 page 65. The family then created a rehabilitation camp for returned soldiers. This chapter is represented by water, symbolizing purity and healing, which is exactly what Wittman and Tana try to do.

The Student said...

Edie, I really liked your summery especially how the quote was used and the explanation behind it.

Unknown said...

@Unknown - Your comment is lacking substance. It does not address the prompt fully and does not show that you read the text.

Mrs. B

Unknown said...

@Keahi - Your comment is also lacking substance. Why do you think this chapter is trying to explain what you thin it is?

Mrs. B

Unknown said...

@Maggie - Please fully explain what you think is wrong.

Mrs. B

Unknown said...

@Aidan - Reread your comment. It is confusing - lines 3-4.

Mrs B

Unknown said...

@Rico - explain why you think it represents Hawaii.

Mrs. B

Unknown said...

@ Cory - Thank you for including an explanation of why you chose the quote you cited. I did not explicitly state this in the prompt; I assumed you all would know to do this. However, it seems that you are one of the few who did this. WHy do you thin Witman and his wife get involved in this peace effort?

Mrs. B

Unknown said...

@Marissa - your explanation of the quote is lacking. How was it like to live in Hawaii at this time?

Mrs. B

Unknown said...

@ Lani - Your view that water symbolizes the life given to the GI's through the rehabilitation center is effective. What is cold water symbolize in this chapter? Why?

Mrs. B

Unknown said...

@Marc - what are preaches of peace?

Mrs. B

Unknown said...

@Zac - How is your example an example of finding peace? Explain, please.

Mrs. B

Unknown said...

@Alexis - Peace through service - NICE! Why do you think MHK made this chapter so long?

Mrs. B

Unknown said...

@Cortney - Why do you believe this chapter was about finding peace...Your post is lacking. Please add convincing detail that you have read the text.

Mrs. B

Unknown said...

@Cortney - Why do you believe this chapter was about finding peace...Your post is lacking. Please add convincing detail that you have read the text.

Mrs. B

Unknown said...

@Edie - WHy do you believe the chapter is about spreading peace wherever you go? Give details that show you have read the text, please.

Mrs. B

Unknown said...

@Fernanda - Give more info about how Witman and his wife are doing in Hawaii.

Mrs. B

Sollie Garcia said...

Chapter 3 is titled Water. It is about a fiction story where a family move to Hawaii, to avoid the Vietnam War. Their family came to seek Peace within them. The characters Wittman, Tana, and their son Mario. I think the topic is that humans are always striving for peace.

"Wittman saw where the convoy had come from- a man-made cleft in the mountain side. He would not have seen it but for this sign: KAPU KEEP OUT PROPERTY OF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT
So-the Government put a kapu on this part of the 'aina." -page 118 This quote shows that there is never peace when ever there is a war going on, no matter where you are.

Sollie Garcia said...

@Zac

You gave a great summery of the chapter and your quote supported your thesis well. Good Job.